Israel/Palestine post 10/7 - follow-on events/thoughts as relate to other countries (2024)

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Here's why Biden's actually the good guy

― H.P, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:49 (five days ago) link

Okay sure sure, he's funding a genocide and crushing a peace protest with force but at least

― H.P, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:51 (five days ago) link

Sorry, couldn't figure out a way to end that sentence

― H.P, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:51 (five days ago) link

it's such an inane non sequitur. if anyone knows Rupar please tell him I'm going to vote for trump now because I saw that tweet

― rob, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:53 (five days ago) link

oh I thought he was being ironic! I was going to say "when u lost Rupar...

no, he was serious: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.bsky.social/post/3krbuopjfq22j

― rob, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:59 (five days ago) link

Biden will give protesters comfier prison cells than Trump will

Rupar is a joke

one really jawdropping part of the campus-wide email just sent by UChicago's president pic.twitter.com/NnuHRVZkut— Helen Galvin Ross (@helengalvinross) April 29, 2024

Galaxy Brane

The kids are all right.

wtf: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-tulane-protesters-clashing-with-police-on-horses-209961029804

I don't think this video really shows any clashing, more a handful of cops being incredibly f*cking stupid and cruel to their own animals

― rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:41 (four days ago) link

They're cops, "f*cking stupid and cruel" is part of the job description.

the link makes it sound like the protesters could've been the ones on horses, which would be awesome. But f course it's the bourgeois press imputing violence to the protestors. I feel like I haven't seen in my lifetime (born when we were hightailing it from Vietnam) the full power of the state and the media and the "adults" in this country to crush dissent.

Like not even in the run-up to the Iraq war even. No one set the hoses on the massive anti-invasion protest in DC before the invasion. They were just ignored.

I know cops-on-horses have long been used to intimidate and break up protests, but I 100 percent agree with the guy yelling "this is insane" in that video, putting horses in that kind of situation has to as scary for the horses as it is for the people on the ground.

has to be as scary ...

otm

<3 Women & Children First: https://blockclubchicago.org/2024/04/25/women-children-first-bookstore-will-replace-vandalized-palestinian-flag-window-with-mural/

― rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:43 (four days ago) link

it's always good to put skittish animals into a volatile situation, then when they inevitably get riled up and fling the officers from their seats, you can arrest the protesters for assaulting an officer by way of startling the animal.

Robin D.G. Kelley goes hard on Minouche Shafik:

https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/letter-to-columbia-university-president-minouche-shafik/

That’s a good letter.

Also I think it’s hilarious and underreported that Shafik is both a baroness and a member of the House of Lords

Also I did not know that she took on the job from Lee Bollinger, who was the doofus President at Michigan when I was a student there

She was the head of LSE before this and allowed a Charlottesville white supremacist to take a place there. Another controversy involved Mark Wallinger’s sculpture of a globe that included Taiwan but not Palestine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Turned_Upside_Down_(sculpture)

Brown has agreed to divest

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-palestine-04-30-24/h_3bb2b501b25fc2ee950c56e48debdf99

has agreed to vote on whether to divest so let's see....

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:08 (four days ago) link

ah right, well, we'll see

love that Kelley letter (love him in general!), thanks tabes

― rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:29 (four days ago) link

has agreed to vote on whether to divest so let's see....

Rally on the Green U! <3

― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:44 (four days ago) link

I feel like I haven't seen in my lifetime (born when we were hightailing it from Vietnam) the full power of the state and the media and the "adults" in this country to crush dissent.

Uhhh I would say that it’s on the scale of response to many of the anti police brutality demonstrations from the last 15 years?? They had mf tanks!!

― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:49 (four days ago) link

Summer of 2020, they actually imposed a curfew for a few days

― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:54 (four days ago) link

i was in a coma

I’m sorry

― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:06 (four days ago) link

I guess I am kinda resentful in a way that this is about injustice elsewhere and there’s plenty of it here in the US, but maybe this movement will lead to local activism idk so I don’t want to be an asshole

― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:11 (four days ago) link

Columbia student radio station live coverage of events

https://www.cc-seas.columbia.edu/wkcr/#

I’m sorry

Sorry, I was being flippant. I was not. I guess I pushed 2020 out of my mind when writing that.

That is, I was suppressing 2020 out of my mind when I made my original claim about this being a phenomenon I haven’t seen.

Two differences w/ 2020 - cracking the skulls of college kids on campuses instead of more diverse crowds in urban centers + more Democrats had to at least give lip service to supporting BLM protests since Trump was President

yep— now they can say “but vote blue no matter who” and shaming those of us who won’t vote for one genocidaire over another

Ugh (following what’s happening at Columbia)

Here’s a link to the Columbia college radio reporters trying to cover things live https://wkcr.streamguys1.com/live.m3u

As someone who lives less than 3 blocks from the encampment at Columbia U and regularly attends a seminar on campus, this is so frustrating and infuriating.

i shouldn't say much but considering how small and tame the demonstrations have actually been the media frenzy and immoderate police response feels overwhelmingly Islamophobic

i shouldn't say much but considering how small and tame the demonstrations have actually been the media frenzy and immoderate police response feels overwhelmingly Islamophobic

I would suggest that it’s super convenient for the NYT to report on events at Columbia as opposed to elsewhere in the country/world. It’s like the absurd drama over the earthquake a while back… and that in this case some of the frenzy is NYC centric as opposed to anything else … idk i am not going to die on this hill tho

― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:32 (three days ago) link

this is insane (Columbia)

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:03 (three days ago) link

this is insane (Columbia)

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:03 (three days ago) link

so glad the cops are going to occupy a college campus until after graduation so that the school can continue to invest in Israeli bombardment of Palestinians.

we live in a police state

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:04 (three days ago) link

otm, and part of that means the police protect their ideological allies:

https://dailybruin.com/2024/05/01/pro-israel-counter-protesters-attempt-to-storm-encampment-sparking-violence

Fireworks, tear gas and fights broke out just after 10:50 p.m. Tuesday night and continued early Wednesday morning as around 100 pro-Israel counter-protesters attempted to seize the barricade around and storm the ongoing Palestine solidarity encampment in Dickson Plaza.

The chaos comes as Chancellor Gene Block faces criticism for improper handling of the encampment and the same day the university deemed the encampment to be unlawful, threatening students inside with suspension and expulsion. Security and UCPD both retreated as pro-Israel counter-protesters and other groups attacked protesters in the encampment – led by Students for Justice in Palestine and UC Divest Coalition at UCLA – that followed similar ones across the country.

There has been a minimal police presence on campus despite multiple events of counter-protesters antagonizing the encampment since Thursday.

― rob, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:12 (three days ago) link

f*cking hell

the whole event sounds nightmarish. I saw a tweet that four Daily Bruin reporters were followed and assaulted by "counter-protesters"

― rob, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:25 (three days ago) link

Student journalists at @WKCRFM reporting that NYPD threatened arrest of student journalists and Columbia Journalism School Dean @jelani9 for leaving the Pulitzer Hall journalism department building for a better view of activity on the campus lawn— Samantha J. Gross (@samanthajgross) May 1, 2024

Remember, this is being done all in the service of making students safe.

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