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'Brittany2'Stirnet (1)Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Dukes of Brittany (Bretagne), Counts of Rennes

The dukedom of Brittany (Bretagne) appears to have moved between several families that were connected by blood or marriage. The following is an attempt to pull them together on one page. It starts with an assumption that "XX of Bretagne" was father of both Nominoe and the father of Salomon as Salomon is described by GenEU as "a cousin of Duc Erispoe". NOTE THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE VERSION SHOWN BELOW THAT HAS BEEN OBTAINED FROM A WEB SITE WHICH PULLS TOGETHER VARIOUS OF THE KEY PLAYERS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. IN SOME WAYS THE ALTERNATIVE VERSION IS 'NEATER' AND LOOKS SLIGHLY MORE PLAUSIBLE THAN THE VERSION GIVEN FIRST BUT, FOR THE SAKE OF CONSISTENCY, WE GIVE PRIORITY TO THE INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM GENEU.XX of Bretagne1.XX of BretagneA.Salomon, Duke of Brittany (d 874)i.daughter m. Pasquitan de Vannes, Duke of Brittany @1@ below2.Nominoe, Duke of Brittany (d 851) (see alternate version below)A.Erispoe, Duke of Brittany (d 857) i.daughter m. Gurvand, Duke of Brittany (d 877) (see alternate version below)a.Judicael, Count of Rennes, Duke of Brittany (d 888)b.daughterEGHJRSWYm. Berengar, Count de Bayeux et Senlis @2@ belowEGHJRSWYRidoredh, Count of Vannes 1.Pasquitan de Vannes, Duke of Brittany (see alternate version below)m. daughter of Salomon, Duke of Brittany @1@ above2.Alain I 'the Great', Duke of Brittany (d 907) m. OreguenA.Pasquitan II de Rennes (d after 903) m. ?? de Rennesi.Juhel Berenger (b by 931, d 970) m. GerbergeB.daughterm. (by 907) Matuedo/Malhuedoc I, Count de Poheri.Alain II 'le Barbetorte', Count of Vannes and Nantes, Duke of Brittany (d 952)m. (943) Roscille d'Anjoua.son (d young)partner(s) unknownb.Judicael, Count of Nantesm. Melisende(1)Judith of Nantes (d 1053)GHJSYm. Alain Cagniart, Count of Cornuaille @3@ belowGHJSYc.Guerech, Count of Nantes, Duke of Brittany (d 988)Berengar, Count de Bayeux et Senlis This connection may not be secure. GenEU (Bretagne3) identifies him merely as "Cte Berengar (de Bayeux)" and does not treat him, as we do, as the same person as the "Ct Berenger de Bayeaux de Senlis" who was son of Herbert, Count of Vermandois.m. daughter of Gurvand, Duke of Brittany @2@ above1.Judicael Berengar, Count of Rennes (b by 931, d c970) (see alternate version below)m. GerbergeA.Conon I 'le Tort', Count of Rennes, Duke of Brittany (b 927, d 27.06.992) (see ## alternate version below)m. (973) Ermengarde d'Anjou (b c952, d after 982, dau of Geoffrey I 'Greymantle', Count of Anjou)i.Geoffrey, Count of Rennes, Duke of Brittany (b c980, d 20.11.1008) m. (996) Hawise of Normandy (b c977, d 21.02.1034, dau of Richard I, Count of Rouen, Duke of Normandy)a.Alain III, Duke of Brittany (b c997, d 01.10.1040)m. (1018) Berthe de Blois (d 04.1085, dau of Eudes II, Count de Blois, Chartres, etc)(1)Conon II, Duke of Brittany (dsp 1066)(2) Havoise, heiress of Brittany (d 1072)GHJSYm. (1066) Hoel V, Count of Cournouaille and Nantes, Duke of Brittany (d 1084) @4@ belowGHJSYb.Evenus of Brittany (b c998, d after 1037)c.Eudes of Brittany, Count of Penthievre, Regent of Brittany (b 999, d 07.01.1079)GHSYm. Agnes de Cornouaille (dau of Alain Cagniart, Count of Cornouaille) @5@ belowGHSYd.Emma of BrittanyYm. (c1042) Ives, Vcte de Cotenin (d c1042) Yii.Judicael, Count of Porhoet (d 1037) iii.Hurnod of Brittany iv.Judith of Brittany (b 982, d 17.06.1017)EGHJRSWYm. (1000) Richard II 'the Good', Count of Rouen, Duke of Normandy (b 996, d 28.08.1026)EGHJRSWYB.Mien I de Fougeres (d 1020)Y2.Poppa of Senlis This Poppa (definitely granddaughter of Herbert, Count of Vermandois) is often referred to as the Poppa who (in 886) married Rollo 'the Ganger' who conquered Normandy. However, the dates seem to make this impossible. The Poppa who married Rollo was probably the great-aunt of this Poppa. Instead, noting that her father may well also have been 'of Sulzbach' and that this may have been the route whereby the county of Bayeux was confirmed as belonging to Balso, it is thought likely that she was the same person as ...Poppa of Sulzbach (b c930, 'dau of Berengar of Sulzbach') --m. Balso d'Espaine (Espagne ?), Count of Bayeux (b c930)--Alain Cagniart, Count of Cornouaille (d 1058)m. Judith of Nantes (d 1053, dau of Judicael, Count of Nantes) @3@ above1.Hoel V, Count of Cournouaille and Nantes, Duke of Brittany (d 1084)m. (1066) Havoise, heiress of Brittany (d 1072) @4@ aboveA.Alain IV 'Fergent', Duke of Brittany (d 1119)m1. Constance of England (b 1061, d 1090, dau of William I 'the Conqueror', Duke of Normandy, King of England)m2. (c1093) Ermengard d'Anjou (b c1068, d 1146, dau of Fulk IV' le Rechin', Count of Anjou)i.Conon III 'le Gros', Duke of Brittany (b c1071, d 1148)m. (c1112) Maud (dau of Henry I, King of England)a.Hoel VI, Count of Nantes, Duke of Brittany (d after 1156)b.Berthe, heiress of Brittany (d 1158/64)GHSYm1. (1135) Alan 'la Zusche' ('the Black'), Earl of Richmond (b c1095, d 15.09.1146)GHSYm2. (1147) Eudes II, Viscount of Porhoet, 'Duke of Brittany' (d 1170)c.Constance of Brittany (d 1148) m. Geoffrey de Mayenne (d 1169)ii.Geoffroy of Brittany (d Jerusalem 1116) iii.Havide or Hawise of BrittanyHJYm1. (1110, div) Baldwin VII, Count of Flanders (b 1093, d 1119)m2. Geoffroy, Viscount de Porhoet (d 1141/2) this marriage reported by TCP (Zouche)HJYB.Mathieu, Count of Nantes m. Ermengarde C.Hildegerde of Cornouaille m. Geoffroy de Mayenne (d 1099)D.+other issue - Eudes, Adele (Abbess of St. Georges) 2.Agnes de Cornouaille GHSYm. Eudes of Brittany, Count of Penthievre, Regent of Brittany (b 999, d 07.01.1079) @5@ aboveGHSYTHE FOLLOWING PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE ANCESTRY OF CONAN 'LE TORT', COUNT OF RENNES WHO DIED IN 992. IT WAS FOUND IN A WEB SITE THAT REPORTED "THE HOUSE OF GLENDONWYN" (http://home.swbell.net/tjgriffi/moore_rankin.html). SEE NOTE AT TOP OF PAGE.Noinenoe, King of Brittany (d 07.03.851)m. Argantael1.Herispoe, King of Brittany (d 858)2.Gurwand, Count of Rennes, Duke of Brittany (d 877)A.Judicael, Count of RennesB.Berenger, Count of Rennes (a 890)i.Juhel, Count of Rennes (d 970)a.Conan, Count of Rennes (d 992) = Conon I 'le Tort', Count of Rennes, Duke of Brittany (b 927, d 27.06.992) ## see abovem. (970) Ermengarde of Anjou (dau of Geofrey, Count of Anjou)3.Pasquitain, Count of Vannes (d 877)
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